[Szt-newsletter] Snell-Zimmerman-Timmerman Family Reunion Fall Newsletter 2024

[Patrick Babcock]

Snell-Zimmerman-Timmerman Family Reunion Fall Newsletter 2024



Hello

Fall has come to the Mohawk valley--- it has been chilly but dry fall,
beautiful
days and cold nights and no rain. Snells Bush Church and cemeteries look
well-keptbut work needs to done on the cemeteries and we will work on it in
done in the spring.  We held the fall board meeting in October. Our next
reunion for 2025 will be held on August 24, 2025. We usually hold the
reunion the last Sunday in August but due to Labor Day on September 1,
2025, the
board felt it would be better to hold the reunion a week before on August
24, 2025. We have a handicap ramp in place, so it will be easier for
handicap members to attend the reunion. We will again hold our annual ice
cream social event on Saturday night as the locals and family members enjoy
attending to eat ice cream and view the sun setting over the valley.

It was a good move to place our patent in the Dolgeville Historical Society
Museum. The museum is open most weekends and during events held in
Dolgeville like the Violet Festival, farmers market and other events. The
museum also has class tours of children coming from Dolgeville Central
School to view the museum and see our patent. Here they can learn about the
history of Dolgeville and the Town of Manheim. We are still working on
getting some sort of library located in the loft for family genealogy, books,
newspapers files, family genealogy, files of photos. We hope to have it
available for research. Snells Bush Church has many files of memorabilia, and
we are trying to organize it into some workable system.

We are planning to place a sign on the lower Snells Bush Cemetery as there
is no sign there now. That cemetery has an interesting history as it has
had many stories told about this area called “Rothkopf’s Hollow”.These
stories were captured in a booklet by Eleanor Franz and was printed
for the Town
of Manheim Bicentennial 1997 entitled “Manheim’s Snells Bush”. The
following are the traditional haunted stories of “Rothkopf Hollow”:

first story, It is said that settlers were chopping wood and some
unfriendly Indians came by and the settlers killed the Indians by letting
the ax slip as they held the piece of wood needed to be chopped. Some how the
Indians were killed at this time and buried there.

Second story, by Corliss Timmerman called Roe cup’s Hollow. There was
cheese factory near there and some Indians bought cheese-- “white man’s
food” and ate it. The cheese was delicious and the Indian ate too much and
had a stomach acne. The Indians said it choked their “inruns bowels” and
they did not want any more cheese.

Third story, listed in Lawrence Timmerman papers, Ralph Ehle mentioned cheese
factory and a little burying ground in the southern part of Snells Bush,
there is a wooden ravine known to the natives as “Roadkopf’s Hollow” (
Rotkopf’s Hollow). According to one account the murder of a redheaded
peddler occurred here. When the more timid were frightened by strange
noises emanating from the forest, the bolder inhabitants discovered that
the sound were really caused by the wind swaying two trees which had lodged
together. According to different versions the red headed victim was a
blacksmith and the beats of the dead man’s hammer could be heard on his
anvil as one passed through the wood.”

Fourth story road haunted, “in the fall the farmers would load their
sleighs with hay to take to Albany and they would go in groups because the
little hollow was believed to be haunted by a witch and at every trip when
the farmer reached that area the sleigh would tip over.  They called it Spooky
Hollow or Red Cap Hollow.”

Fifth story, from a child in school. A ghost jumps out of casket and two
cars saw it and they had an accident

Sixth story, unsolved cold case-.the murder of Charlie Stahl



Please send us any corrections to your e-mail and snail address as we try
to keep our mailing list up to date. We are also looking for your family
updates on birth, marriage and death of family members and little stories
of your family history.  We try to keep a running account of our members.
These can be e-mailed to sarahtisrael at yahoo.com or ncioch at yahoo.com

Or mailed to:

SZT family Reunion Inc

PO Box 623 Little Falls NY !3365

Do you have any family Bibles in your possession???? I am attempting to
make a list of Bibles  owned by family members.  These Bibles hold family
genealogy pages in the middle of the Bible  which can be used as proof of
genealogy family lines. In the writings of Emma Timerman, Carolyn
Sidenius , Charles
Markell , David Martin and others-- they list many Bibles ----- but where
are these Bibles now? It would be interesting to put them all in a master
list so if someone needs information on that particular family line for
genealogy, they would be able to get the information. In our genealogy
books that we sell-- there are many referrals to a family Bibles also. A
list could be placed on our web site with this information.

This year is the celebration of ”250 America of 1776”. Oriskany battlefield
is trying to get-some updates on the battlefield. We have a book
“American Patriots
at the Battle of Oriskany” by Vera Dewitt, that gives the patriots at the
battle. It would make a great gift item for family members. We also have
other interesting books that make great gifts which can be found on the
website under the “About Us” then “Publications” tab. They are also
listed below
at the end of this Newsletter.

Happy holidays to you and your families and we hope to see you at the
reunion next year August 24, 2025.

Sincerely,

Bill Timmerman ----president

Written by Sarah Timmerman Israel corresponding secretary.



The following genealogy books are available from the SZT Reunion, Inc. They
were printed during the 1970’s with great information about the family. There
are stories about the life on the frontier and fighting off the hostile
British and Indians during those early years. Prices do not include the
shipping cost ( unless otherwise noted). Checks should be made payable to
the SZT Reunion and mailed to: Treasurer, SZT Reunion, Inc., P.O. Box 623,
Little Falls, NY 13365.



Author

Title and Description

Price

David Kendall Martin

The 18th Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley, 1994. This book
traces the descendants of Jacob and Margaretha Jung Zimmerman for six
generations (over nearly two hundred years) from their German home village
in the mid-1600's to the Mohawk Valley and beyond. It is a handsome,
indexed, 8.5" x 11" hard covered book with over 300 pages heavily
illustrated with photographs, maps, and signatures. Among the many related
family names in the book are: Getman, Walrad, Petrie, Read, Bellinger,
Smith, Fox, Failing, Van Allen, Herder, Hutchins, Dockey, Sponable, Bauder,
and others.

$22.50

David Kendall Martin

The 18th Century Snell Family of the Mohawk Valley, 1982. The format and
contents of this book are similar tothe above Zimmerman book. David Martin
gives all available information on those Snells born before 1800 in Germany
and New York. The various lines are carriedwell into the 1800's. The book
is in 8.5" x 11" format, with a soft cover.

$10.00

David Kendall Martin

The 18th Century Failing Family of the Mohawk Valley, 1979. This soft cover
book traces descendants of Henrich H. and Anna Maria Kunigunda Failing from
1710 to 1900. The book is rich with history, family lore, illustrations,
documents and maps.

$10.00

 Four books complement David Martin’s 18th Century Zimmerman Family by
extending the known descendants of four sons of Jacob and Margaretha Schutz
Zimmerman (David, Lawrence, George, and Henry) into the latter part of the
20th century. A fifth book extends David Martin’s 18th Century Snell Family
by continuing the descendants of Peter Snell into the 20th century.



Carolyn Timmerman Sidenius

Descendants of David Timmerman of the Mohawk Valley, NY, 1998. This book is
based on the 1925 work by Manley Timmerman, but is greatly expanded from
that work. Family names found within the 200 page book include Allison,
Cronk, Durner, Fellows, Gaylord, Smith, Spoor, Van Deusen, Wooledge, and
Zoller. Soft cover.

$10.00

 Carolyn Timmerman Sidenius

 Descendants of Lawrence Timmerman of the Mohawk Valley, NY, 1998. Among
the descendants of Lawrence covered by this book are those of his
granddaughter, Gertrude, who married John C. Timerman, a grandson of Conrad
Zimmerman (and brother to Lawrence, David, Henry, and George) and moved to
Perch Lake, Jefferson County, NY. This 150 page genealogy (plus a 50 page
index) also includes many descendants of Henry Lawrence Timmerman who moved
to Indiana. Family names in the index include Snell (117), Bahar, Baker,
Bowman, Broughton, Brown, Cramer, Darling, Dunten, Hoover, Lobdell, Meyer,
Mosher, Petrie, Van Allen, and many others.

$10.00

Carolyn Timmerman Sidenius

Descendants of George Timmerman (1734-1800) of Mohawk Valley, NY, 1995. George,
another son of the immigrant Jacob Zimmerman, was baptized by an itinerant
pastor on 20 Jan. 1734. His wife was Anna Elizabeth Klock, a daughter of
Johannes and Anna Margaretha Fox Klock. George had 10 children. Their
numerous descendants have been ably documented in this 8.5" x 11" typed
book of almost 300 pages, with a soft but durable cover. The index of this
genealogy includes Bellingers (209 names) of Onondaga, Jefferson, and St.
Lawrence counties in New York; Billings; Broat (94); Fox, Frye, Flanders;
Hayes (339); Keyser/Kyser (78); Levee; Mason; Mosher; Robinson; Snell; Van
Gorder (70); and Williams.

$15.00

Carolyn Timmerman Sidenius

Descendants of Lt. Henry Timmerman of Herkimer County, NY, 1988. Henry, son
of the immigrant Jacob, was born about 30 Dec. 1737 and died 18 May 1807.
While born a Zimmerman, most of the family changed to the Anglicized
spelling of Timmerman after the Revolution. He settled in what is now the
town of Manheim in Herkimer County. He was twice married - to Catherine Fox
and then to Margaret Bellinger. He had 19children - 7 boys and 12 girls -
of whom 15 were living at the time of his death. His numerous descendants
are found throughout the Mohawk Valley, New York state, and the U.S. and
Canada. This hard cover 8.5" x 11" book, with over 300 pages, follows a
great number of them into the 1980s. The index includes many Snells, Getmans,
Greens/Greenes, Handys, Herkimers, Klocks, Robinsons, Vedders, Walraths,
and others.

$17.50

Carolyn Timmerman Sidenius

Descendants of Peter and Anna Kilts Snell of the Mohawk Valley, NY, 1992. Peter
Snell (s/o Johan Jost and Maria Catharine Kraft Snell) was born about 24
June 1730, probably in Schoharie County, NY, and died in Snells Bush,
Manheim, Herkimer County, NY, in 1804. He married Susanna "Anna" Kilts (d/o
Peter and Anna Maria Bellinger Kilts). At the time of Anna’s death, she
left 420 descendants. This 334 page typed book, with a soft cover, traces
over 3400 descendants, many into the 1990s.

$35.00

Other Publications

Frank C. Bellinger

The War Years in the Mohawk Valley. Articles describe conditions,
activities, and battles during the Revolution and its aftermath. Pamphlet.
1983, 20 pp.

$5.00

Carolyn Timmerman Sidenius

Edith S. Timmerman

Fifty Years With the Faith of Our Fathers. A history of our Reunion and
church compiled for the Reunion’s 50th Anniversary from newspaper accounts,
early newsletters, and meeting and reunion minutes. It is particularly
informative for new members. Pamphlet.1988,2023 48pp.

  This booklet has been updated by Nancy Cioch and Sarah Israel---- that
includes all the current data on officers and directors

$20.00

Vera De Witt

American Patriots at the Battle of Oriskany. A register of Tryon County
Militia and New York volunteers in the Revolutionary War. Soft covered.
1977, 2024 60 pp.

$20.00

Ada L. F. Snell

With My Grandparents. Pamphlet. 1972, 2003 40 pp.

$5.00

The Enterprise and News, 1939

The Lawrence Zimmerman Papers. The SZT Reunion, Inc., 2003 Pamphlet. 1939,
2003 32 pp.

$5.00

Emma S. Timmerman

Homestead Notes. Soft cover. 1971, 2003, 28 pp.

$7.00

Ada L. F. Snell

Palatines Along The Mohawk. Soft cover, 1948, 2002, 76 pp.

$15.00
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